I'm 22, do you envy me at all?
Psychotic Parrot
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OMG! I am 50 this year! Why am I freaking out? Anger - how do you cope?
by hamsterbait ini was told when i hit thirty and was catastrophising, "just wait till you are 40, it just gets better.".
ha!.
i am fifty in a few weeks.
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Are there any decent arguments for God's existence which do not fall prey to the argument from ignorance fallacy? (i.e. God of the gaps)
by Psychotic Parrot ingod of the gaps arguments are simply not convincing, god is no more likely to be the correct gap filler than anything else, in any case where god is squeezed into a gap, we could easily just fill it with (for example) a committee of eternally existing physical lifeforms, god is no more plausible than they are as an explanation.
as for the arguments themselves:.
the cosmological argument = god of the gaps: we think (though we are not certain) that the universe had a beginning, it was probably the big bang, the big bang needed a cause.
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Psychotic Parrot
To be fair on pisswordprotected, knowing he's a wife beater & drunkard raises my opinion of him slightly.
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Is the Gospel of Matthew a clever fake ?
by wobble inthe answer to the above question hinges on when the gospel was actually written.
many scholars feel it was written some time after the destruction of the temple in 70 c.e.
if this is so, it is a clever fake, pretending to have been written earlier by an eye-witness to the events, or someone close to an eye-witness.
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Psychotic Parrot
Oh right, sorry about that, you should have put Not Very Likely in bold. I didn't realise it was a username.
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Is the Gospel of Matthew a clever fake ?
by wobble inthe answer to the above question hinges on when the gospel was actually written.
many scholars feel it was written some time after the destruction of the temple in 70 c.e.
if this is so, it is a clever fake, pretending to have been written earlier by an eye-witness to the events, or someone close to an eye-witness.
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Psychotic Parrot
Your agenda appears to be pro-theist. And in this thread anti-scholarship (unless it's pro-biblical authorship divinity).
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Is the Gospel of Matthew a clever fake ?
by wobble inthe answer to the above question hinges on when the gospel was actually written.
many scholars feel it was written some time after the destruction of the temple in 70 c.e.
if this is so, it is a clever fake, pretending to have been written earlier by an eye-witness to the events, or someone close to an eye-witness.
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Psychotic Parrot
Okay you've lost me now. I have no interest in obvious business principals or practices, my area of interest is ancient history. Call it immaturity, but i'd rather remain ignorant of capitalism since i benefit too much from it to want to know how evil it is, would ruin my conscience heh
But if i suddenly decide i care about it, you'll be on the list of people to go to for information, & i'll be all ears
And err, what meeting? I told you, i left the troof when i was 18.
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Is the Gospel of Matthew a clever fake ?
by wobble inthe answer to the above question hinges on when the gospel was actually written.
many scholars feel it was written some time after the destruction of the temple in 70 c.e.
if this is so, it is a clever fake, pretending to have been written earlier by an eye-witness to the events, or someone close to an eye-witness.
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Psychotic Parrot
Sorry Jaguarbass, but your posts are just very long & i already know what your agenda is. And no, i always read the information if i'm trying to make up my mind about something, but this was nothing major, just a small curiosity.
And like you, i was born in (3rd generation). I grew up with the internet but didn't begin reading apostate literature until after i left the troof, which was when i was 18.
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Are there any decent arguments for God's existence which do not fall prey to the argument from ignorance fallacy? (i.e. God of the gaps)
by Psychotic Parrot ingod of the gaps arguments are simply not convincing, god is no more likely to be the correct gap filler than anything else, in any case where god is squeezed into a gap, we could easily just fill it with (for example) a committee of eternally existing physical lifeforms, god is no more plausible than they are as an explanation.
as for the arguments themselves:.
the cosmological argument = god of the gaps: we think (though we are not certain) that the universe had a beginning, it was probably the big bang, the big bang needed a cause.
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Psychotic Parrot
wobble,
Yeah, i don't so much mind being accused of being biased against the possibility of the existence of God or of hating God. Although i think the idea of me hating someone i don't believe in is silly, but i appreciate that for the people saying i hate God, He is very real & it is very possible for someone to hate him, even an atheist, & let's face it, the God they believe in is a bit of a jerk!
But i do hate it when my arguments are misrepresented as being attempts to prove that God doesn't exist, that really irks me & it is exactly the same fallacious tactic that William Lane Craig uses in his debates, he is such a snake, he really is!
It's also really annoying to see the arguments i am attempting to refute pasted as responses to my refutations! How circular & just plain dumb is that! It's like a conversation something going like this:
Apologist: "God must exist because we exist!"
Atheist: "Maybe, but are there not alternate explanations for our existence?"
Apologist: "No, because God must exist because we exist!"
GAHHH!!!!!!
But yeah, thanks wobble
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Are there any decent arguments for God's existence which do not fall prey to the argument from ignorance fallacy? (i.e. God of the gaps)
by Psychotic Parrot ingod of the gaps arguments are simply not convincing, god is no more likely to be the correct gap filler than anything else, in any case where god is squeezed into a gap, we could easily just fill it with (for example) a committee of eternally existing physical lifeforms, god is no more plausible than they are as an explanation.
as for the arguments themselves:.
the cosmological argument = god of the gaps: we think (though we are not certain) that the universe had a beginning, it was probably the big bang, the big bang needed a cause.
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Psychotic Parrot
I rather regret making this thread now, it's distracted me from my work.
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Are there any decent arguments for God's existence which do not fall prey to the argument from ignorance fallacy? (i.e. God of the gaps)
by Psychotic Parrot ingod of the gaps arguments are simply not convincing, god is no more likely to be the correct gap filler than anything else, in any case where god is squeezed into a gap, we could easily just fill it with (for example) a committee of eternally existing physical lifeforms, god is no more plausible than they are as an explanation.
as for the arguments themselves:.
the cosmological argument = god of the gaps: we think (though we are not certain) that the universe had a beginning, it was probably the big bang, the big bang needed a cause.
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Psychotic Parrot
Deputy Dog,
It may not seem like it from your perspective, but that is simply what the words mean, there's no way around that.
And if you feel the evidence supports your position then you may as well go ahead & claim gnosticism. I'd rather remain open to the possibility that actually, the evidence doesn't particularly point either way at this point.
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Are there any decent arguments for God's existence which do not fall prey to the argument from ignorance fallacy? (i.e. God of the gaps)
by Psychotic Parrot ingod of the gaps arguments are simply not convincing, god is no more likely to be the correct gap filler than anything else, in any case where god is squeezed into a gap, we could easily just fill it with (for example) a committee of eternally existing physical lifeforms, god is no more plausible than they are as an explanation.
as for the arguments themselves:.
the cosmological argument = god of the gaps: we think (though we are not certain) that the universe had a beginning, it was probably the big bang, the big bang needed a cause.
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Psychotic Parrot
Actually, the really long post was directly related to each one of the issues raised in your OP.
I didn't ignore the substance of your argument, I provided an article from a philosopher who directly addresses your argument.
Highly unlikely, since my initial post was made in response to & addressed the arguments that were in that very essay you posted (as well as many others like it). Of course i highly doubt you actually read either my initial post or the rubbish which you pasted into the thread.
All you did was re-post the arguments i was addressing. And since i posted in my own words & you just pasted from another source, my point still stands, don't do it in future! It's naughty! Paste all you like but that was too much, you even included the references at the bottom!